[redrove]

“Tech alternatives” yet a good portion of the companies I randomly clicked on are software services/outsourcing, especially on the eastern side.

Show me a European iPhone, European Microsoft, European Nvidia, etc. Hell, I’ll take a European one man company that can reach all 27 markets.

Europe needs a single market for capital and the removal of legal barriers to extend across the continent, foremost for the little guy. Von der Failen can only add _more_ regulation. Someone wake me when they actually make something easier.

[karambahh]

Feels like you're addressing two different topics in one comment.

Legally speaking, a one person company can address the whole EEA market. From a marketing/sales standpoint yeah, sure, it's probably hard to address culturally different markets like Portugal, Poland and Sweden.

But it does not have much to do with regulations, especially not ones decided at the EU level.

I'm all for better integration but diverse cultures are here to stay....

Sample size of one, but done business in Italy, Spain, Belgium, France, Switzerland and Germany: main issues were not regulation related...

[joshuaisaact]

Have you heard of a little company called Arm Holdings?

It was a travesty that the UK government let it be sold, admittedly.

[shiroiuma]

UK isn't European. They made that clear when they voted for Brexit.

[cyberax]

How about European ASML?

> Europe needs a single market for capital and the removal of legal barriers to extend across the continent, foremost for the little guy.

?!?

You can trivially sell your software inside the EU. As for software that I use almost daily: OsmAnd. LanguageTool, which is spell-checking this message, is made in Germany. IntelliJ products are made in Czechia, and I'm using them right now.

[redrove]

You can sell products anywhere but you’re battling 27 different sets of rules and legislations. Look at how a burger shop becomes a continent wide franchise overnight and you’ll see how that’s impossible in the EU.

We just lack the regulatory freedom and deep financial markets, access to credit, etc.

[stackghost]

>Show me a European iPhone, European Microsoft, European Nvidia, etc.

The "avoid dependence on the US" movement only really started picking up steam with Trump's accelerating dementia in his second term.

The iPhone, Microsoft, and nVidia all took multiple decades to develop into the behemoths they are today. Famously, the first iPhone was actually expensive trash: no apps, no 3G, couldn't even cut and paste text. It wasn't until the 3G model and the App Store that it became a true success.

[jmchuster]

> Famously, the first iPhone was actually expensive trash: no apps, no 3G, couldn't even cut and paste text.

Also famously, while the tech elitists complained about all of its shortcomings, the broader consumer market fully embraced it and it single-handedly drove an entirely new generation of consumer electronics.

[raincole]

Yeah. Not sure if it's the intention, but what this site really shows is "the lack of European tech alternatives."

[puchatek]

I believe the EU inc initiative attempts to fix the capital aspect

[redrove]

It’s just a shortcut for broken Germany to be able to found a company without a notary and 25000EUR.

[coredev_]

So there are of course a lot of large EU based IT/tech companies but I guess you already know this.

As for leaders, von der Leyen might not be the best but still lightyears better than the orange pedo in the wh.

[redrove]

There are many many degrees of harm before the extreme. They can both suck at the same time.

[budududuroiu]

Realistically, what you're asking for won't happen unless there's a strong push for Federalisation.

Unfortunately, most Eastern Bloc countries are led into the false belief that the EU is encroaching on their ways of life and "making them eat ze bugs", and the Brussels elite is more concerned with using their slim remaining political capital to push restrictions on internet freedoms rather than federalisation.

[redrove]

Yes, precisely. Going federal is the only viable l, unified, way ahead.