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knollimar | 10 days ago

Is the thinking token stream obfuscated?

Im fully immersed

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orbital-decay|10 days ago

It's just a summary generated by a really tiny model. I guess it also an ad-hoc way to obfuscate it, yes. In particular they're hiding prompt injections they're dynamically adding sometimes. Actual CoT is hidden and entirely different from that summary. It's not very useful for you as a user, though (neither is the summary).

ukuina|10 days ago

Agree the raw thought-stream is not useful.

It's likely filled with "Aha!" and "But wait!" statements.

FergusArgyll|10 days ago

They hide the CoT because they don't want competitors to train on it

cubefox|10 days ago

The early version of Gemini 2.5 did initially show the actual CoT in AI Studio, and it was pretty interesting in some cases.