[nikcub]

and anyone notice that the pace has broken xAI and they were just dropped behind? The frontier improvement release loop is now ant -> openai -> google

[gavinray]

xAI just released Grok 4.20 beta yesterday or day before?

[dist-epoch]

Musk said Grok 5 is currently being trained, and it has 7 trillion params (Grok 4 had 3)

[svara]

My understanding is that all recent gains are from post training and no one (publicly) knows how much scaling pretraining will still help at this point.

Happy to learn more about this if anyone has more information.