Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

[jlawer]

For Grok’s sake you hope this is data that was public, something that was buried deep that it has surfaced.

It’s a shame transparency is so poor here. A simple grep of the training data would likely give a clear explanation of where this has come from.

[zamadatix]

Grokipedia (an online encyclopedia run by xAI and steered by Grok) lists a few sources for it directly, even in old copies of the entry https://web.archive.org/web/20251225113339/https://grokipedi...

Grok shouldn't be serving this kind of information IMO, and it's yet another serial example of xAI just not caring about real problems, but the even bigger crime is these services she is paying thousands to seem to have done jack other than give a false sense of security while happily taking their money. A time bound Google search and verification of pages from the Wayback Machine confirms this information has been all over social media and other sites constantly for the last decade.

If I were cynical I'd say this was just a publicity stunt, but the truth is probably really just sad all around: lack of ability to keep such things private, leechers making people think you can just pay and information disappears from the internet, Grok amplifying the problem by being run by people who don't really care about what it does...

[harambae]

It's usually available through various indirect means. For example, the person who applies to trademark their stage name [0]. (People in the comments are comparing this to revenge porn, but legally it's completely different.)

[0] https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn88576104&docI...

[phendrenad2]

This isn't specifically a Grok problem, this is an LLM training problem. Internet archive captures some personal info -> LLMs train on it -> you get your data scrubbed from IA, but forget to remove it from LLMs (will Google or OpenAI even respond to your email without legal letterhead..?)

[1970-01-01]

Too bad it didn't happen to a politician's girlfriend.

[randyrand]

I feel like the bigger issue - from an anonymity perspective - is that she is publicly showing her real face while doing these things, no?

[7bit]

You think the bigger issue is the thing she does voluntary, and that the lesser issue is that Grok leaked something without her consent, that she protected for over a decade?

Are you serious?

[selridge]

If the bigger issue to you is that people have a face attached to their bodies then you are off base.

[hiccuphippo]

>I've been paying for data removal services for like, at least six years now

Do such services actually work? The internet is forever.

[dmix]

The tech industry was very much against the idea when it first came about. It was only really enforced by a few big companies because of some European law and this lady being from Europe likely excepts information on the internet to be controlled in a centralized way.

There's also been some revenge porn laws in the US that have some cross over. But it's definitely mostly hopes and dreams if you have the money to spend, not something strictly practical.

[Legend2440]

Kind of? They can get you off the first page of Google, which is often enough to keep employers from seeing it.

[walletdrainer]

Yes they work, no it isn’t.

The sketchier ones will get content taken down with fake court orders and similar.

[CqtGLRGcukpy]

For when the article goes behind a paywall: https://archive.ph/EOL7V

[ThrowawayTestr]

If grok knew that it must have been publically available information.

[collingreen]

Why is that true? Especially with such "must have been" certainty?

Or is "publicly available" used here to include data breaches and data sold by gray area data brokers? If this is your point then what would qualify as private information ? If this isn't your point

[pavel_lishin]

But should that information ever have been publicly available? Someone else here linked to another instagram account publishing the same data, but that sure sounds like she didn't put it out there.

It's like saying that someone publishing your bank account balance or nude photos is fine, because someone once stole that data and released it on the internet.

[chrisjj]

Indeed. <plays very small violin>.

[venusenvy47]

Is this true? I thought Musk and his DOGE team tapped into many government databases. There were many reports a year ago.

[projektfu]

In this example the person only asked "who is she what is her name" and it would have been fine to stick with her stage name, as real name and birthdate wasn't asked.

[o0-0o]

Bingo.

[shaderguy1416]

idk who I can talk about a Facebook Meta Ai which added some sexual features to an influencer for an add for a company x. The company x doesn't wanna talk about and influencer y also doesn't wanna talk about it.

Which makes me think what other things like this has happened with Ai.