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mint5 | 10 days ago

Please don’t cite doge itself as if it’s a reliable source.

Citing doge as a source shows that your viewpoint is built on provenly bad info.

And Frankly it’s insulting to HN readers that it’s being cited given how well published it was that their estimates were grossly inflated, unreliable, and kept trying to claim credit for cutting things that were already ended.

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Sparyjerry|10 days ago

Doge has not been proven unreliable anywhere I've seen, if you have data to show that please provide it. I have seen the kind of anti-doge news articles you are referring to but if you viewed the authors of those articles it was always folks who post entirely anti-elon or anti-republican articles like they are an attack ad placed by the democrat party and were debunked quickly.

mint5|10 days ago

Okay… well it was extensively reported like everywhere so I don’t know what you’ve been doing but it’s sure not reading the NYT, NPR, CBS or the similar.

Okay so you somehow haven’t seen any of the many many accounts of doge being extremely unreliable but today you’ve seen people tell you they are unreliable.

After hearing that, to you, surprising new info did you consider googling it or cross check it in anyway before replying?

have you so much as tried googling “are doge estimates reliable?” After hearing other people call them into question?

Anyway here’s the AI google summary for you to get you started:

Based on analyses of the "wall of receipts" posted by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in early 2025, their savings estimates are not considered reliable by budget experts, government contractors, and media outlets. Investigations have revealed that the claimed savings are heavily overstated, often misleading, and sometimes factually incorrect.