[stuffn]

It's the anti-gun lobby. Bloomberg's band of morons who believe a government monopoly on force is good.

These bans are almost exclusively in states with already extremely strict (high rated by the gifford's law people) gun laws.

So far, there is zero evidence in the last 30 years more strict gun laws have curbed crime. The states with the strictest laws conveniently have the highest proportion of gun crime. The same people writing these laws don't understand what "per capita " means. Nor are they willing to confront the reality of what the data shows. The calculus for these petty tyrants has changed from banning guns wholesale to lawfare. Make owning and purchasing firearms so burdensome the market dies, and with it, the rights. This is just another play in that strategem.

Fun fact: More people died last year putting foreign objects in their rears than by AR-15s. That is how insane the anti-gun lobby has become. They are literally barking at their own shadow these days.

[goostavos]

No amount of FBI stats about how often "assault" rifles are used will change people's minds. They don't like them and so want to take them away.

I don't know how to square the same people saying we're living under a tyrannical government also pushing legislation that makes sure said tyrannical government is the only one with guns.

[jajuuka]

I can't square people who think owning a gun will stop or prevent a tyrannical government. Especially when the tyrannical government just leverages its supporters as a vigilante force.

[lovich]

> So far, there is zero evidence in the last 30 years more strict gun laws have curbed crime. The states with the strictest laws conveniently have the highest proportion of gun crime. The same people writing these laws don't understand what "per capita " means. Nor are they willing to confront the reality of what the data shows.

I’ve seen this claim from a few people in this thread but everytime I look up gun deaths per capita Massachusetts and California are low on the list and both have strict gun laws compared to red states

[whyenot]

Do you have a reference or at least some hard numbers for your "fun fact"?

[15155]

Long gun homicides (justified and unjustified, "assault weapons" and grandpa's 30-06 combined) are typically sub-500 per year, see: FBI crime stats for the last N decades.

Pick whatever demise: falling off of ladders, roofs, etc. - it's not hard to exceed this number in any given year.

[dekhn]

Can you redo your "fun fact" but include all types of guns?

[rpdillon]

Pew does what they can:

> In 2023, the most recent year for which the FBI has published data, handguns were involved in 53% of the 13,529 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 4% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (42%) involved other kinds of firearms or those classified as “type not stated.”

Interesting findings:

Most gun deaths are suicides with handguns.

Assault weapons are used in less than 5% of deaths.

Handguns account for 53% of the deaths.

Shotguns are negligable.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-...

[Dylan16807]

Well there is a lot of weird focus on entirely the wrong things when criticizing guns.

[dekhn]

Your fun fact is misleading because it's specific to AR-15s. A better comparison would be all types of guns.