[TSiege]

This is a false equivalency if I just share torrented data I can go to prison. These companies downloaded and seeded copy righted material and then sold a product made from that data. If I a civilian did this I would face time in prison. If you think this is fine great, but what people are made about is the hypocrisy of the current moment.

As the title said "Techno-cynics are wounded techno-optimists"

[simianwords]

> These companies downloaded and seeded copy righted material and then sold a product made from that data

but no company did this.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

I'm not a lawyer and I don't follow this area super closely, but it sure sounds like they did?

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

> Facebook parent-company Meta is currently fighting a class action lawsuit alleging copyright infringement and unfair competition, among others, with regards to how it trained LLaMA. According to an X (formerly Twitter) post by vx-underground, court records reveal that the social media company used pirated torrents to download 81.7TB of data from shadow libraries including Anna’s Archive, Z-Library, and LibGen. It then used this information to train its AI models.

> Aside from those messages, documents also revealed that the company took steps so that its infrastructure wasn’t used in these downloading and seeding operations so that the activity wouldn’t be traced back to Meta. The court documents say that this constitutes evidence of Meta’s unlawful activity, which seems like it’s taking deliberate steps to circumvent copyright laws.

[FrustratedMonky]

OpenAI did, and this is so uncontroversial, I'm surprised you are saying it didn't happen.

[TSiege]

OpenAI, Meta, and Anthropic all are known to have done this. It's even been exposed in company internal communications. Anthropic already settled their court case. You're an 11 month old account and I suspect you are some sort of bot or user meant to spread misinformation on the forum.