[ljsprague]

They sound like very loyal people who I would love to have as my compatriots.

[kettlecorn]

Many of the world's most intelligent and caring people are loyal to values over tribe.

[ljsprague]

Values don't reproduce; tribes do.

[Natfan]

they can't be your compatriots if you imprison them, nor if they've to death due to working without any funding, also know as "pay"

[Natfan]

s/they've to death/they've starved to death/

[kg]

Loyalty is earned. They don't owe me or you any loyalty if we mistreat them.

[ljsprague]

There's no mistreatment alleged though: the US is bad because it stopped funding their jobs.