[dnw]

Both can be true right? A model can be a savant memorizer _and_ a good reasoner?

[paradox242]

LLMs can't reason because they fundamentally don't understand anything they generate.

[egor2820]

The fundamental understanding is vague. I bet half of the people don't understand what we're talking about. And 90% of the people don't understand how they think, I guess. Moreover 90% of people 80% of time probably don't really think logically but do routine in a rudimentary thinking mode.