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NuclearPM | 11 days ago

Access to information is dangerous when the information is controlled propaganda.

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lucasRW|11 days ago

That's what Iran, China, and Russia are saying too, right ? :o)

ceteia|11 days ago

Would educating people instead and giving them more options for information, not be better than banning access to information?

glwiththat|11 days ago

If educating people worked there wouldn’t be any obese people, or drunkards, or smokers, druggies, gamblers, people addicted to doomscrolling or video games or ragebait "news" or…

Education is as useful as preaching abstinence at horny teenagers instead of providing access to contraceptives

synecdoche|11 days ago

That depends on what "education" entails. If it's one source only chances of it being propaganda is high.

ffsm8|11 days ago

Intuitively yes, but it's possible that this is one of our biases speaking

From my memory (might be mistaken) there have been attempts to somewhat study this via polls etc, and determined that coverage via propaganda (specifically Fox News) is less helpful then randomly guessing what actually happened...

But ymmv, social studies are always hard to trust, because it's borderline impossible to prove cause and effect

stein1946|11 days ago

What if educating people takes decades and lies can be prompted in a few minutes?

whattheheckheck|11 days ago

For real... the species is not going to last long if a subset of it gets to control the information flow of the other part... literally unsustainable

simianparrot|11 days ago

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intended|11 days ago

I wish more people volunteered to moderate online communities. Especially political ones.

It’s taking way too long for normal people to realize they have a stake and imperative to be part of these communities. Speech is shaped here, and many God awful decisions have to be made at scale.

There is no cost to holding the position you stated, and no one wants to get their hand dirty, or see how the sausage is made. You have to regular decide if this comment is actually hate speech, actual debate, or someone “asking questions”. Who knows what the actual false positive/negative rates are.

The sheer amount of filters, regexes and slur lists needed to stay abreast of toxicity and hate speech are absurdism at its best.

Nothing happens without an informed citizenry. The foundations of speech online are collapsing and weak. There need to be more citizen view points from the ground, deciding how they want this domain to operate.

shevy-java|11 days ago

That does not compute.

account42|11 days ago

Don't you know, democracy means censorship, freedom of information means fascism, and most importantly we have always been at war with America.