[sp527]

> ethically coherent with American values

I'm a lifelong US citizen and burst out laughing at this. What values? What coherence?

Do you mean the NSA man-in-the-middleing all that traffic and leaving a backdoor for Mossad? Imagine the most despicable possible invasion of privacy and the most reprehensible shadow oppression and manipulation of an uneducated populace you can conjure up.

Now imagine something way worse than that. This is America.

[carlosjobim]

Freedom of speech. I didn't expect to have to spell it out.

[ta20240528]

Note that in 36 odd states in the USA companies and their officers (i.e real people) cannot boycott Israel (or even say nasty things) and then do business with the state.

By law.

So, not so much free speech.

[giva]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reprisals_against_commentators...

[krior]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

[microtonal]

You mean the freedom of speech that gets you shot when you protest the gestapo?

Where critical late night shows get cancelled because a small group of Trump-aligned people control most media?

Seriously, the world is looking in amazement how all the talk about free speech and democracy was purely performative.

The US becoming Hungary (or maybe Russia).

https://rsf.org/en/index

[sp527]

Yet another illusion. A lot of Americans are very good at finding ways to persecute people for having an opinion, often using economic consequences as a cudgel to enforce groupthink. And, at this very moment, the government is compiling lists of people it regards as enemies, purely on the basis of their "free" speech.