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razighter777 | 10 days ago

Hmm I think he's being a little harsh on the operator.

He was just messing around with $current_thing, whatever. People here are so serious, but there's worse stuff AI is already being used for as we speak from propaganda to mass surviellance and more. This was entertaining to read about at least and relatively harmless

At least let me have some fun before we get a future AI dystopia.

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gwbas1c|10 days ago

I think you're trying to abdicate someone of their responsibility. The AI is not a child; it's a thing with human oversight. It did something in the real world with real consequences.

So yes, the operator has responsibility! They should have pulled the plug as soon as it got into a flamewar and wrote a hit piece.

razighter777|9 days ago

> It did something in the real world with real consequences.

It didn't. It made words on the internet.

brainwad|9 days ago

The whole point of OpenClaw bots is that they don't have (much) human oversight, right? It certainly seems like the human wasn't even aware of the bot's blog post until after the bot had written and posted it. He then told it to be more professional, and I assume that's why the bot followed up with an apology.

apublicfrog|10 days ago

> It did something in the real world with real consequences.

It wasn't long ago that it would be absurd to describe the internet as the "real world". Relatively recently it was normal to be anonymous online and very little responsibility was applied to peoples actions.

As someone who spent most of their internet time on that internet, the idea of applying personal responsibility to peoples internet actions (or AIs as it were) feels silly.

ziml77|10 days ago

The AI bros want it both ways. Both "It's just a tool!" and "It's the AI's fault, not the human's!".

JKCalhoun|10 days ago

It might be because operator didn't terminate the agent right away when it had gone rogue.

BeetleB|10 days ago

From a wider stance, I have to say that it's actually nice that one can kill (murder?) a troublesome bot without consequences.

We can't do that with humans, and there are much more problematic humans out there causing problems compared to this bot, and the abuse can go on for a long time unchecked.

Remembering in particular a case where someone sent death threats to a Gentoo developer about 20 years ago. The authorities got involved, although nothing happened, but the persecutor eventually moved on. Turns out he wasn't just some random kid behind a computer. He owned a gun, and some years ago executed a mass shooting.

Vague memories of really pernicious behavior on the Lisp newsgroup in the 90's. I won't name names as those folks are still around.

Yeah, it does still suck, even if it is a bot.

dolebirchwood|10 days ago

It's all fun and games until the leopard eats your face.