[gizzlon]

> I's still a long way towards fascism for USA to actually lose its attractiveness

Hard disagree. They are on a road to totalitarianism. Unless there's a quite violent change of course, it's just going to get much worse.

Have you not seen the president and his people go after: Political opponents, Attorneys, Leaders and workers in the government who dare to disagree, Immigrants and tourists with the wrong opinions, Journalists (because they power and can expose some of the lies and corruption).

Have you not seen the Trump family and friends becoming very rich, and giving out contracts to their friends?

Have you not seen the government being weaponist against the maga "enemies" ?

This is what fascism looks like.

[oytis]

This is all bad, but the real test will be the next presidential elections and, to a lesser extent, midterms. If you can vote a dictator out, it's not a real dictatorship.

And again, I'm not really seeing Europe staying democratic for long after the fall of the USA

[gizzlon]

> but the real test will be the next presidential elections and, to a lesser extent, midterm

Sorry, but that is just extremely naive. Just look at how this usually works. Or look at what the orange fuckhead tried the last time. Now, repeat, but with much more power and influence in all the right places, from government to big tech.