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r_lee | 9 days ago

I think that's because there's less local AI usage now since there's all kinds of image models by the big labs, so there's really no rush of people self hosting stable diffusion etc anymore

the space moved from Consumer to Enterprise pretty fast due to models getting bigger

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zozbot234|9 days ago

Today's free models are not really bigger when you account for the use of MoE (with ever increasing sparsity, meaning a smaller fraction of active parameters), and better ways of managing KV caching. You can do useful things with very little RAM/VRAM, it just gets slower and slower the more you try to squeeze it where it doesn't quite belong. But that's not a problem if you're willing to wait for every answer.

r_lee|9 days ago

yeah, but I mean more like the old setups where you'd just load a model on a 4090 or something, even with MoE it's a lot more complex and takes more VRAM, right? like it just seems not justifiable for most hobbyists

but maybe I'm just slightly out of the loop