[bloomingeek]

No offense, and you're not entirely wrong, but this is one of the big reasons we are in this situation politically. Millions of voters stayed home because they thought this way. The result: America is the embarrassment of the world, no longer to be trusted. We all must vote, even if we must hold our noses while doing it. We can't allow known thugs to be in command. (I was a life long GOP voter, to my shame, until 2004. How the American public didn't see the puke of a DJT presidency coming is beyond the pale.)

[pixl97]

>because they thought this way.

Technically, no, they did not come up with this thought on their own. It's been heavily propagandized that 'voting does no good, so just stay home". I just want to point that out as it's an active attack on American voters.

[Sohcahtoa82]

It doesn't help that most Democrat politicians are happy to maintain status quo. Or they're completely feckless, like Chuck Schumer, who is the absolute King of bringing a strongly-worded letter to a gun fight.

People that are actually leftist don't vote because there's nobody that represents them. Most Democrat politicians are centrist.

[fuzzfactor]

Meaningful information shouldn't die just because the medium goes dark :\

Joe Average the Trump voter got to be the way they are from a "grooming" process of some kind.

Who would Trump have ever have picked up something like that from?

[pousada]

What I never understood is this binary system in the US - why wouldn’t you allow some other parties or reform the system in a way that allows more diversity.

But it’s of course a hellishly complex problem

[bloomingeek]

pousada, I've simmered on your response for several days now. As a person in their late sixties, I've seen our political system, at least in my existence, at most of it's worst. Nixon taught us, in modern times, what evil looks like behind closed doors, because of the tapes. Reagan taught us what smiley faced racism looked like by using slogans. W taught us that lying to everyone on camera was no big deal as long as it seemed patriotic. And now here we are with a president who openly breaks the law because of however he feels on any given day.

On the seemingly rare occasions that a democrat gets into the oval office, they spend most of their time on social/environmental issues that extend to all voters, but are fought at every turn. We desperately need a reformed political system. The only way that will happen is if the American voting public will get off their cans and put forth the effort to learn civics and then realize that their opinions must be tempered with reason.