[cmsp12]

anything that was made in a factory is processed. Eat food in its most natural form available

[epistasis]

I bake my own bread, so great, that's not a factory. But the pain de Genoesse, how is that not made in a factory? What size of bakery is OK?

Edit: and to take an example from the "official" definition: "Group 1 foods are unprocessed or minimally processed: nuts, eggs, vegetables, pasta." When people hear pasta, they think it's going to be made in a factory. I occassionally make pasta, but honestly prefer the dry stuff for its texture in most dishes, and nobody is making dried pasta at home of any good quality (see for example this amazing series of YouTube videos of an attempt at such https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLURsDaOr8hWXz_CFEfPH2... )

Adding "pasta" to the group 1 list kind of upends any intuitive understanding of the groupings.

[magneticnorth]

Yes, I found the group description confusing as well. The group 4 description starts off with "when foods are refined, bleached ...".

I'm pretty certain the flour used to make standard grocery store pasta is both refined and bleached. Even if I make it at home, I'm using refined and bleached white flour.

And my understanding is that should be considered fairly processed - the refining makes it less fibrous and easier to digest, which spikes insulin levels and is bad for gut bacteria etc.

[tubs]

Raw meat? Wheat grains from the ground? Coconut shells?

[cmsp12]

no, meat from the meat aisle that comes from a cow and not with a bunch of chemicals added into it and that is in the freezer

[readthenotes1]

You just chew wheat? Know on popcorn kernals?

"available" is hardly a right goal