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Acme Weather

253 points| cryptoz | 9 days ago |acmeweather.com

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basicoperation|8 days ago

The site doesn’t make it clear, but it’s not available worldwide. The App Store doesn’t tell you where exactly it is available, but it’s not in the UK.

This surprised me seeing as one of the example images shows Europe, including the south coast of Britain.

pzmarzly|8 days ago

From website's FAQ:

Acme is currently available in the United States (including Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico) and Canada.

esoltys|7 days ago

In Canada it's $35/yr and I don't see any indication of the 2-week trial that's mentioned on their website. Probably can still cancel within two weeks, but it simply has a Subscribe button before you can do anything.

qkc3p3Jbf4|8 days ago

Looks lovely. I was keen to try this but US and Canada only unfortunately.

Also: subscription fatigue is real. Of course I understand that fetching weather data isn’t free etc. (even though I’m intrigued by their homegrown forecast model) but I’ve already got 10+ subscriptions on iOS and I’m not sure if I’ve got the stomach for another. Apple’s weather app is finally good though since the Dark Sky acquisition.

RebeccaTheDev|8 days ago

> Also: subscription fatigue is real.

This. I just went and cancelled a bunch of vampire subscriptions that had accrued in my life (both in and out of the Apple ecosystem) and ended up saving somewhere in the range of $60 a month.

I get that people have bills to pay and building and maintaining software costs money, but when everyone wants money from me for every little thing, eventually I have to decide who gets what cut from an increasingly limited sized pie.

Apps like this that, while beautiful, replicate functionality that is "good enough" that I can get for free are the first thing to be cut.

imarkphillips|8 days ago

How about reporting on yesterday's weather? Its hard to plan a walk in the forest today if I dont know how much it rained yesterday.

bichiliad|8 days ago

In the app, you can swipe backwards in time and see the reports and data for yesterday.

NoboruWataya|8 days ago

I'm having this problem right now, trying to plan some nice long walks out of the city but it's been raining a lot lately. I'd love some kind of map of flooding/muddy conditions, but I don't think it would be feasible without a massive effort (as whether an area is prone to flooding or turning into a mudbath after rain depends on a lot of factors).

vollmarj|7 days ago

This is exactly what Precip does. Other apps just show the past forecast which can often be wrong. The Precip app uses radar to measure what actually happened so you'll know if that trail is muddy or not. https://precip.ai

kristopolous|8 days ago

mentioned this elsewhere, but https://zoom.earth/ handles that ... (I've got nothing to do with them btw... I just think it's good)

mlrtime|8 days ago

Weather history sounds like a awesome feature. Sort of like a farmers almanac built into a modern weather app?

bonaldi|8 days ago

This team really have been thinking about weather a lot, and it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time.

It’s that depth of thought and expertise that feels missing from most of the vibe-coded launches we’ve seen recently. I actually wouldn’t mind if Acme had vibe coded parts, but I bet they didn’t.

JumpCrisscross|8 days ago

> it makes me very curious about what they’ve created this time

The rainbow and sunset alerts are really cool ideas. I'm now realising that a simple tie-in to astronomical phenomena could prompt a useful notificationa around it e.g. being worth going stargazing that night. I ski–learning that the near-term forecasts just changed would help me change my schedule the day before versus trying and failing the morning of.

hypercube33|8 days ago

I'm almost shocked we don't have a large weather model instead of a language model. Seems right up the alley.

Also I don't get what happened but I think it was AccuWeather or weather underground in the early 2000s where it was to the minute accurate and it seems like it's gotten worse since everywhere.

naet|8 days ago

The app looks beautiful and the multi forecast model makes a lot of sense.

I don't think I am ready to pay an annual subscription for it. Feels like a big ask for the weather when there are so many other free sources to get a forecast. But I appreciate that the app was made with real intention and wish I you success with it.

focusedone|8 days ago

Sweet! Looking forward to the android version. I was slightly bitter when apple yanked the website.

idatum|8 days ago

After losing Dark Sky on Android, I discovered Foreca app. Works well in my area in the PNW.

One thing I learned is some post processing done by these services are better in some areas than others.

aucisson_masque|8 days ago

> $25/year subscription

I don't get it, is there even a market ? People get free and quite accurate weather information from Google and others. I don't think that a few radar view and probability prediction are worth that amount of money.

But then, how much was dark sky ? And did it succeed ? Getting bought by apple is a kind of success but I mean success as in profitability.

Analemma_|8 days ago

The underlying data sources are not free, weather data providers charge per API request. Stock weather apps built into the OS eat this cost for you, but third-party apps can't do that, they either have to show ads (ugh) or have a subscription.

Of the $2.08/month this works out to, I don't know how much the devs have left for themselves after the weather API and Apple's 30% cut, but I can't imagine it's much. I don't think you're getting ripped off here.

deepfriedbits|8 days ago

I'm not sure if the price rose later, but I remember getting Dark Sky for a $3.99 one-time payment. Much more palatable than $25/year imo.

i7l|7 days ago

The free (and paid) apps for weather are seriously terrible in LatAm. You can really see the focus and high data quality are all in the northern hemisphere. All the apps available rely on a handful of models: GFS, IFS, ICON, ...

nephihaha|8 days ago

"Quite accurate"

I've been hearing snow predictions for two months now. We have had one or two light dustings which didn't lie. I also find most predictions are mostly useless beyond three days.

counters|8 days ago

There's probably an initial "nostalgia for DarkSky" market. But beyond that? Nope.

bichiliad|8 days ago

I have always had a ton of respect for the Dark Sky devs. I love the work that goes into designing interfaces that make sense of complex datasets intuitively, and I feel like Dark Sky was a textbook example. I’m genuinely really excited to try this out.

SoftTalker|8 days ago

I agree, Dark Sky was really nicely done. That said, when I want to know the weather I just look out the window, so it's unlikely to be something I would buy.

npodbielski|8 days ago

Not available on Android. They are looking for Android Dev so I guess it is coming.

Woodrow503|8 days ago

Amazing. Just downloaded and will happily pay the $25 if this operates anywhere close to what dark sky was before the buyout. We’ve got some interesting weather on the horizon so this should be a good test.

Now they just need to offer an Apple Watch complication like this: https://imgur.com/oTG7MH6

Still bothers me that apple weather doesn’t offer this.

imiric|8 days ago

How are weather apps still relevant, let alone profitable enough to build a company around? This problem has been solved years ago. All the app needs to do is hook up to one or more data providers, and show some stats and pretty graphs. It's essentially a read-only frontend to an API. There are plenty of options to choose from on every platform, including not using an app at all.

The features this ad promotes all seem like solutions to nonexistent problems. "Alternate possible futures" don't give me any more confidence in the forecast—it just shows that it's not reliable, which everyone should know already. "Community reports" just add another layer of uncertainty. How can I trust that someone's report is valid or up-to-date, or that it applies to my area? Maps are nice and visually interesting, but this is not exactly novel. Notifications? No thanks. A weather app "should be fun"? Huge no thanks. Privacy and trust? Why do you collect any data?? Unbelievable.

kmbfjr|8 days ago

You are not wrong, except at scale it gets complicated quickly. For starters, to support large user numbers, you’re going to have to process your own grib2 data for radar and turn them into tiles at zoom levels.

It takes about 24 cores with a GPU to do CONUS, Canada, Alaska, Pacific and Caribbean data. This should be 2x for redundancy. Even being cheap with main processing in my basement (gen power, backup internet) the cloud costs to serve it are $200 month plus data transfer. The standby grib machine spins up should it not see the cheap primary or the NOAAPort receiver is offline.

There is no money to be made without whoring out your user’s privacy. People just won’t pay for a privacy focused weather app. I keep this going as a hobby.

cryptoz|8 days ago

> Why do you collect any data??

There are like, billions of internet-connected barometers in the world that are not used in weather models. I don’t know if Acme has any of that in mind, but there is plenty of good reason for a weather app to collect data from phones. I know @counters may disagree with me, but I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones.

Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now?

I haven’t got the app yet, but I plan on it (gotta upgrade iOS first I think). Acme seems to have a lot of ideas I agree with, so, definitely following this.

One more thing. Weather apps have not been “solved”. Not even close. They all suck, there’s billions in untapped opportunity, and a stale existing market of bad solutions. People die all the time from severe weather. There is so much more work to be done in forecast accuracy and communication.

Lord_Zero|8 days ago

Is there really that much money in making a weather app where you can quit your job at apple and do that?

gregoriol|8 days ago

Funniest thing is how they leave the company they sold their weather app to... to start another weather app.

cryptoz|8 days ago

They sold their last weather app to Apple for like, tens of millions or something. These aren’t some random Apple employees.

Also, it seems a common misunderstanding about some weather apps: yes, most of them just package free data and steal your privacy, but some are really much more than a “weather app”. Some are attempts at building next-generation weather forecast models, which if successful are of course worth billions.

I’ve spent a lot of time building innovative weather apps, most of my career actually. And it’s always shocking to me when people say I’m wasting time or wasting my life or look at me like, “really? You’re dedicating your life to weather apps?!”

No dawg, I’m trying to improve short term forecasts to save life and property from severe events at scale!

I’m not sure what the Acme end goal is, but surely this isn’t just a “weather app”.

ajdude|8 days ago

> Fifteen years ago, we started work on the Dark Sky weather app.

I will never forgive them for selling out to Apple.

Dark sky was the greatest weather app I've ever used, it had features such as considering the pressure of the atmosphere when predicting rain using crowd sourced phones, and it was the only app I've ever used that was as accurate as it was during a time when my job relied on quickly leaving the office and running across town multiple times a day.

it was sad watching the API get killed off but even worse was that a lot of the features that dark sky had never really made it into Apple weather, and the rain predictions at Apple Weather had were never as accurate as dark sky. There were several times where it was actively raining and Apple weather never even knew. Dark sky always knew.

Nope nope nope fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, I'm not touching this with 39 1/2 foot pole.

estearum|8 days ago

Assume they do sell out again in a year or 5.

Why exactly should you willingly choose to have worse weather predictions between here and there?

A weather app isn't something with lock-in or dependencies where using a maybe-not-permanent-solution is going to hamstring you if it disappears.

IgorPartola|8 days ago

Exactly my sentiment. Will they sell out to Google or Microsoft this time?

rotbart|8 days ago

I can't download it, as it appears to be US only. Based on the screenshots, without 'feels like' support throughout the forecast (not just for current conditions) it wouldn't be useful where I live.

khalic|8 days ago

Never understood using that metric, doesn’t temp and wind give you enough info? Genuine question

renewiltord|8 days ago

$25/yr for accurate weather predictions is valuable but I don’t want app. I want api usage. Weather use for me is through Claw-type background agent that notifies me prior to events.

clashmeifyoucan|7 days ago

I enjoyed the part about factoring in unpredictability. One of my peeves with weather apps had been that they do switch the forecast on the fly if it is inaccurate, and I have joked before that what we need is a derivative weather app accountability app that tells you how often a weather app corrects itself. So I'm excited to see if Acme makes a meaningful difference!

rvz|8 days ago

> It’s simple: when looking at the landscape of the countless weather apps out there, many of them lovely, we found ourselves feeling unsatisfied. The more we spoke to friends and family, the more we heard that many of them did too. And, of course, we missed those days as a small scrappy shop.

> So let’s try this again…

At this point, I think that this is just going to get bought out by OpenAI.

Won't be totally surprised to see that outcome.

danpalmer|8 days ago

Did DarkSky ever make it out of the US? I know it was US only for a long time, as it seems this is.

Even recently Apple Weather was hilariously bad in Australia. I was always asking my partner for the weather because her Pixel weather app was reasonably reliable and Apple Weather was always wrong.

Weather forecasts are such a localised issue. I've never seen an app that does well globally.

krelas|8 days ago

Just get the BOM app, nothing else comes close for accurate weather here.

Aldipower|8 days ago

I used to use DarkSky for the "history data" for my platform. Querying weather for certain points in the past at certain locations. DarkSky was great for that until they were bought by Apple. Now I am using VisualCrossing for historical data. Hope Acme plans to do historical data too. But if it is US only then it is a no-go anyway.

PlunderBunny|7 days ago

If a weather app had access to your photos in real time (I know - stay with me here) it could deduce the local weather from what it can see in the sky in your photos, essentially crowd sourcing real-time weather updates with no effort from users.

mittermayr|8 days ago

Smells heavily like the Wunderlist approach, just re-do and re-sell the same thing over and over.

bsimpson|8 days ago

Anyone trying it out in NYC? Curious to know what it expects of tomorrow's potential blizzard.

Add me to the list of people not excited to pay a subscription to get Dark Sky back, but also bummed I can't yet try it on Android.

counters|8 days ago

It would just be regurgitating information from numerical forecast models.

If you're in the Northeast and have questions about the significant winter storm that is impending, please check out the National Weather Service's forecast and decision support materials for your community on www.weather.gov.

LeoPanthera|8 days ago

I wish weather apps would tell you what models they're using, and the source of their data.

That's why I subscribe to Windy, you can see what model they're using, and pick between a variety of them.

joecool1029|8 days ago

Does anyone know if the subscription can be shared with family?

joe_hills|8 days ago

I was looking at the in-app purchases list and it doesn't explicitly have a family-sharing plan like Weather Line does.

This looks great and I'd definitely consider switching my family Weather Line plan over to an Acme Weather family plan if it becomes possible.

JasonHarrison|8 days ago

I am on the free trial and it did not extend to my family. Unsure whether this will change when the trial converts to a paid subscription.

Aboutplants|8 days ago

Yes please devs, make this subscription shareable with family

MuEta|8 days ago

This app looks great! Only thing I can't find is snow / rain accumulation, which is extremely important when living in the mountains.

allddd|8 days ago

If a weather app is going to be truly useful, it usually needs a lot of permissions, like access to your location all the time, notifications, etc., and I don’t feel comfortable giving a proprietary app that kind of access, especially when there are great FOSS alternatives.

mattlondon|8 days ago

Interested, but no android app and apparently US only?

Can we update the title?

Exuma|8 days ago

Awesome - do you offer a small widget for the lock screen?

rcarmo|8 days ago

I am going to chalk this up as another datapoint in the "Apple cannot retain talent" chart. I don't know what the heck they are doing, but everyone they've acquired seems to leave as soon as they can instead of staying.

mattlondon|8 days ago

Leave as soon as you can, along with millions and millions in cash that you got from the sale? Who wouldn't?! Why would you continue working for "the man" when you have FU-money?

gregoriol|8 days ago

I'd love to see some stats on this: people leaving to start something new (be it Apple or any other acquiring company) might be over-represent because there is not much news about people staying in their job

j45|8 days ago

it would be great to look up weather on their website too not just the app like other tools.

JensenTorp|8 days ago

Subscription app in 2026, no thanks.

JumpCrisscross|8 days ago

Your phone comes with a free weather app. There are thousands more free apps for folks who don’t mind ads.

Weather requires ongoing costs. It’s always going to need to be maintained because meteorological models are evolving. Anything beyond a viewport will need to track and metabolize those changes.

ksynwa|8 days ago

I only have one Apple devices (an iPad) but from what I seen the subscription is popular on it. I wanted to use Infuse, a video player, for my Jellyfin server but the lifetime price was $100 or a $2/month subscription. Also was interested in Panels, a comic book reader, for my Komga server. Panels was more reasonably priced ($20 for all updates to the current major version) but it also a subscription tier at $1.5/month.

oheyadam|8 days ago

How do you expect them to pay for their costs and service fees? One time payments of $1-$10 don't cut it. People aren't paying massive one time fees for mobile apps

j45|8 days ago

The internet and software always costs someone.

gcanyon|8 days ago

Time for everyone who has posted lamenting how Dark Sky was better (that's me!) to put our money where our mouth is.

cawksuwcka|8 days ago

i live weather people. “hey, how’s the weather?.” click.

elAhmo|7 days ago

No one should be using apps made by these guys after their sellout to Apple. Leaving Apple now to start another weather app is quite disingenuous.

friet|8 days ago

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jwr|8 days ago

Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others…

"Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

ca6d8815|8 days ago

Try your local weather app. Here in Switzerland the MeteoSwiss app is absolutely wonderful, and has all these main features:

  - Uncertainty bands in the forecast (the bands are a better UX than more lines imo)
  - User-supplied reports
  - Many many many different maps (snow / cloud / wind / sunshine / air quality / etc)
  - Alerts (not notifications, but real alerts to watch out for something)
Plus many more other features. I found Yr in Norway also good (and on the web you also get uncertainty in the 21 day forecast https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/T...).

Local weather services shouldn't be overlooked (and they're "free"... save for taxes!).

sixtyj|8 days ago

Windy.com - both website and app. It covers the whole world and seems that they have very large number of models available.

StopDisinfo910|8 days ago

Why would you pay a subscription for a weather app in the EU when national providers are already so good?

I guess they wanted to focus on the US market at first because they know there is money to be made there.

Terretta|8 days ago

Has EU weather sources per credits (DWD, ECMWF, EUMETSAT -- roughly what it's doing is graphing multiple models), but if you are into weather apps you're likely best off with Carrot that (a) lets you design your own UI including matching this (more or less), and (b) lets you choose among weather sources and flip among them with a tap.

If it's about cute UI and key notifications, try Hello Weather. For microcell notifications on anything, Tomorrow weather. For much better maps, WeatherMap.

For comparing multiple models, try Windy.app. For coastal barrier island use, I have 8 graphed at once, most of them EU models.

Very little reason for any weather app beyond Carrot, though Apple Weather is surprising evolved from the app of 20 years ago, no longer the 4th app to replace after messaging, maps, and browser).

Carrot is the only weather app with a vicious weather control AI singing an entire Broadway concept album about your destruction at you though.

lionkor|8 days ago

I'm in Germany and I really enjoy the Norwegian weather app YR, it's nice and simple and very clean.

pixelesque|8 days ago

Yeah, odd to show an example screenshot with France and Spain on the map if it's not available there...

skadamat|8 days ago

My understanding is that they're just starting out with the app. Someone posted it to HN prematurely. Dark Sky expanded to support global weather and I'm sure Acme will as will.

mlrtime|8 days ago

Why not look into it instead of complaining about something you have no right to have in the first place?

Maybe the market is too small, maybe it will come with the next version, maybe there are EU barriers that prevent implementation?

This constant complaining about something that didn't exist 1 second ago is tiresome.

agluszak|8 days ago

Why is that? I know that some US-based news websites choose the nuclear option of completely disabling access to EU-based users instead of complying with EU laws. But weather app? What problem do they have with supporting EU users?

caseyohara|8 days ago

I doubt people would complain this much if they came across a weather app that is only supported in the EU or China or India. No one would say

Yet another China-only app with China-only weather, I guess, like countless others…

"Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

Build your own EU weather app if you care so much. No one is obligated to support their software in the part of the world you happen to live.

stronglikedan|8 days ago

Not available on Android either, so... no big deal. They're just starting out. Give them a chance to grow.

WarmWash|8 days ago

All Europe has to do is let grind-culture young people become billionaires and they'll have all the cool (and necessary) software they could imagine.

The US might suck socially, but the other side of that coin is that it gets all the cool stuff.

ho_schi|8 days ago

It looks nice. Less nice but very good in Germany is DWD Warn Weather:

https://apps.apple.com/de/app/dwd-warnwetter/id986420993?l=e...

Yes. We pay for it with taxes! And again with our money in the App Store. But the app success is build upon the lawsuit from WetterOnline which is a private company.

https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung...

The lawsuit backfired and made the state funded app well known. WetterOnline attacked the DWD because the state funded app is superior :)

I think in Italy they have some similar app. Would be nice if the EU helps us to unify the app. And add offline capabilities, bad or no internet happens. The weather radar is offline of less use but the forecast still helps.

They release videos for dangerous weather on YouTube. We’ll know for regular people, in regular cloths, speaking like regular Germans. Everyone loves it :)

I like it when important services are provided by the state and private companies. Save foundation! In worst case the state is always better. In best case they compete and public benefits. In this case the private company just sucks. But they made a good job in advertising for DWD ^^

PS: If someone would implement a nice weather for Linux (best Gtk) based upon DWD public data? DO IT!

greatgib|8 days ago

We don't care about a Weather app. Very easy to do and there are millions of it. What is missing is good freely accessible data /api for weather info.

Most free one are disappearing and frustratingly in most countries, the weather agency you pay with your tax will not provide it for you.

allddd|8 days ago

Weather agencies funded by taxes should make their data available to everyone, since it’s the public that finances them. Luckily, that’s already the case where I live, but when I travel I have to rely on global sources like Open-Meteo, which are usually less accurate than local ones. Another open (and global) alternative would be great.

skadamat|8 days ago

Speak for yourself :) Weather data is already freely available.

I want something that integrates into my life very minimally and just gives me the information I need when I need it. Most weather apps fail at this.

wlonkly|8 days ago

I care! I have to cross-reference multiple apps to get a good detailed forecast, a "minutecast" of precipitation, and Canadian humidex and windchill numbers. I haven't tried this one yet because I'm a little confused why it didn't offer me a free trial, but if it gives me all of that then I am sold.

estearum|8 days ago

I care about a weather app and since Dark Sky disappeared there has been nothing even remotely close to it in usefulness, FOSS or otherwise.