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bromuro | 8 days ago

We should repeat it over and over until all these electrons apps are replaced by proper native apps. It’s not just performance: they look like patched websites, have inconsistent style and bad usability, and packed with bugs that are already solved since tens of years in our OS. It’s like Active Desktop ™ all over. Working on a native Mac app feels just better.

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rumori|6 days ago

I rarely feel that any more, especially with the latest liquid glass updates. I used to work on high profile native apps, but embraced Elektron after Figma destroyed Sketch, the supposedly superior native alternative. Electron apps run fine on my 4 years old M2Max 32gb Macbook Pro, I never really experience any problems running Notion, Figma, VScode and Linear side by side. I enjoy being able to resize text in all of these apps like you do on any website, or being able to select text across different UI elements and blocks. Web content has a built in level of accessibility that is really hard for native apps to implement.

rc1|8 days ago

> have inconsistent style

You mean incongruent styles? As in, incongruent to the host OS.

There is no doubt electron apps allow the style to be consistent across platforms.

bromuro|8 days ago

No, they are also inconsistent: slack, vscode, zed, claude, chatgpt, figma, notion, zoom, docker desktop, to quote some that i use daily. They have all different UI patterns and design. The only thing they have in common is that are slow, laggy, difficult to use and don’t respond quickly to the Window manager.

Compare to other software on Mac such as Pages, Xcode, Tower, Transmission, Pixelmator, mp3tag, Table plus, Postico, Paw, Handbrake etc, (the other i use) etc those are a delight to work with and give me the computing experience I was looking for buying a Mac.

llbbdd|7 days ago

How much is Linus paying you?