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runarberg | 8 days ago

> Engineers turn their nose at this, but look who has tapped into this wealthy revenue stream.

This may be one of the most tone deaf, american imperialist sentiment, I’ve heard on HN for a while.

Engineers who have any sense of morality have a pretty good reason to turn their nose at this, and there is no but needed to follow that sentence.

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zdragnar|8 days ago

If you read the comment a little more closely, it is very obvious that the "this" engineers turn their noses up at is the flexible model full of glue code, ala Salesforce, as opposed to "good architecture".

It's more or less in the same vein as pointing out that WordPress powered a massive chunk of the Internet despite violating almost every good coding practice you can name, and that getting things done is what makes money, not building ivory towers.

The fact that you turned that argument into some sort of anti American screed says much more about you than the parent.

hoytschermerhrn|7 days ago

To be fair, I had the same interpretation as OP here. One cannot have an earnest discussion of Palintir without at least implicitly including the privacy & military industrial complex associations of this company.

runarberg|8 days ago

That is why I called it tone deaf, I admit the part about American Imperialism may have been unwarranted (may is in emphasis for a reason).

This engineer turned their nose at the bad architecture and glue code, but neglected to mention the total lack of morality from Palantir. I would argue that abandoning morality and aiding the American imperalist machine in its war against human rights and dignity, has been a much bigger reason for Palantir’s success then their lack of good engineering practice. They are willing to get paid for something most people morally object to. Lots of engineers are willing to abandon their craftsmanship if it pays well enough, few their morals.

Perhaps I read too much into this absence, in which case the post is only tone deaf, but I favor the read where this absence was intentional, in which case it is both tone deaf and American imperialist.