[ifwinterco]

That's what I'm saying though, it's not out of nothing, people have legitimate grievances and at the same time there is probably at least some foreign influence. It's not either/or, it's (probably) a bit of both.

But like I said, I'm not there, so I don't know the truth and there's no way for me to find it out.

My basic point is just that you can't trust what you read in the papers because the Soviet Union is not the only state to engage in propaganda

[JumpCrisscross]

> It's not either/or, it's (probably) a bit of both

It's never purely one or the other. But it's also never predominantly foreign action. Again, it's incredibly difficult to do that, and not for lack of trying.