[stevefan1999]

They are not eliminating job, you still have jobs in 1984 which is where we are heading to. You still need to hire someone to do the mass surveillance and policing, and enforcing the laws that are getting more and more draconian day by day. And you still need people to instigate-cough-motivate hate on something in order to keep the momentum of the society to shift the focus. Those still took labor but AI makes it easier.

We are indeed entering a post-job-scarity environment though. You see a lot of ghost posting and lack of response for years now, 6 out of 10 application is ghosted, 2 out of 10 said no, and just a few remaining. Jobs are getting rarer and are going to be more of a status rather than for breadwinning

[uncletaco]

It really sucks that everyone’s go to dystopia is 1984. Especially in this case given 1984 required the active participation of millions of citizens whereas Brave New World maps better where control is enforced through comfort and irrelevance instead of force.

The tech dystopia doesn’t even try to flatter us by assuming we’re important enough to oppress individually.

[joquarky]

If we're closer to BNW, then where are the comforts?

Everything that were comforts before COVID are far too expensive now.

Even the bread and circuses are gradually being taken away.

[Someone]

> You still need to hire someone to do the mass surveillance and policing

Someone, yes, but not millions, maybe not even thousands anymore.

The Stasi needed 1 in 40 of the working population as informers (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/03/lessons-from-...), but large parts of surveillance can be automated now.

For policing, you may not need that much, either. To put out smaller fires, you only need local superiority in numbers. That can be achieved by having a small force that can be rapidly deployed.

For large uprisings, you can use drones. You’ll want to avoid that, though because that isn’t guaranteed to keep you in power.