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cousin_it | 9 days ago

Yes! I stumbled on this idea myself (when trying to learn German) and it works very well. I just read books and listen to audiobooks, starting from a very basic level and then gradually higher level. The talking improves almost automatically, without having to practice it.

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aix1|8 days ago

> The talking improves almost automatically, without having to practice it.

I absolutely don't doubt your experience, but find it interesting that mine has been the exact opposite.

I listen to a lot of German and read a fair amount. As a result, my listening and reading comprehension got pretty good (at least B2). My writing has also improved significantly (probably also around B2). However, I find that this does not transfer well to speaking, which I need to practise separately in order to see a meaningful improvement. After some targeted lessons I'm just about approaching B1.

Perhaps transferability will improve once I reach a certain level of fluency. I think this might have happened when I was learning English. However, this was so long ago that I no longer remember.

For the next language I might try to overemphasise speaking from day one just to see how the learning trajectory differs.