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conradev | 7 days ago

Use OrbStack. It’s faster than Virtualization.framework because it has its own hypervisor.

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noname120|7 days ago

Not true, OrbStack uses Virtualization.framework: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36189550

nsonha|7 days ago

Yes but they also use a custom linux kernel to achieve better performance than plain vz. I'm not technical enough to tell if it's bs, but it boots subsecond

saagarjha|7 days ago

I don't think they use Virtualization for most launches now

harshdoesdev|7 days ago

OrbStack is great but it is solving a different problem. it's a full Docker Desktop replacement. shuru is just a thin layer over Virtualization.framework for spinning up throwaway sandboxes.

JoshTriplett|7 days ago

OrbStack has some invasive elements inside it trying to provide filesystem integration, and the filesystem they use is not POSIX compliant and causes breakage with some build systems and other software.