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I mean.. I'm not feeling like you have sufficiently debunked the argument I was citing/referencing. I have a 2012 thinkpad, and a 2018 thinkpad. They both pull the same wattage. It didn't benefit anyone for me to upgrade to the newer model, other than I can have way more browser tabs open or whatever. But the newer machine had to be manufactured, packaged, shipped, etc.

Yeah, servers are far more power-efficient than they used to be, but that's not really what millions of households worldwide are constantly buying.

Here, since I didn't have any links/quotes initially, I figured I should spend the time to dig some up.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jclepro.2011.03.004 > The manufacturing phase represents 62–70% of total primary energy of manufacturing and operation.

https://web.mit.edu/2.813/www/readings/Williams%20-%20Energy... > life cycle energy use of a computer is dominated by production (81%) as opposed to operation (19%).