[honr]

That won't change until top-notch, simple (i.e., without 100 transient dependencies) org parsing and formatting libraries for a few key languages (go, javascript / typescript, and python; maybe also C++ and java) become available.

Which is sad because org-mode seems far more versatile than markdown, except for a couple of ergonomic features (e.g., ``` vs #+BEGIN_SRC, and * [x] task vs * DONE task).

Even libraries to parse and format a subset of org-mode would be good enablers.

[regularfry]

I think it gets away with being more verbose because those two aren't spelled "#+BEGIN_SRC" and "DONE", they're "C-c , q" and "C-c t d" (from memory). I think unless you really commit to learning a decent subset of what org-mode provides the ergonomics are always going to seem a little clumsy. I've always found emacs shortcuts hard to learn, and because of that I've never quite got my use of org-mode over the activation hump to really stick for the long term. Every time I leave it and come back to it I have to relearn a lot of it from scratch because there doesn't seem to be any sort of intuitive framework I can hang it all off.

[wafflemaker]

I made my own macro* to encapsulate the currently selected text in SOURCE \END_SOURCE tags. Now you're telling me there was a keyboard shortcut for that?

What else I don't know about emacs?

*It was my first macro/function and while creating it I've learned that 1. It wasn't that hard and 2. With help of an LLM you can program emacs a little even without deep knowledge of elisp. Though LLMs suggest very unreadable elisp code and you have to rewrite everything.

[everybodyknows]

The list of parsers is here: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html