[fmbb]

I don’t think we can expect all workers at all companies to just adopt a new way of working. That’s not how competition works.

If agentic AI is a good idea and if it increases productivity we should expect to see some startup blowing everyone out of the water. I think we should be seeing it now if it makes you say ten times more productive. A lot of startups have had a year of agentic AI now to help them beat their competitors.

[ej88]

We're already seeing eye-watering, blistering growth from the new hot applied AI startups and labs

Imo the wave of top down 'AI mandates' from incumbent companies is a direct result of the competitive pressure, although it probably wont work as well as the execs think it will

that being said even Dario claims a 5-20% speedup from coding agents, 10x productivity only exists in microcosm prototypes, or if someone was so unskilled oneshotting a localhost web app is a 10x for them

[bwestergard]

"eye-watering, blistering growth from the new hot applied AI startups and labs"

Could you give us a few examples?

[sjaiisba]

AI has been a lifesaver for my low performing coworkers. They’re still heavily reliant on reviews, but their output is up. One of the lowest output guys I ever worked with is a massive LinkedIn LLM promoter.

Not sure how long it’ll last though. With the time I spend on reviews I could have done it myself, so if they don’t start learning…

[simonw]

OpenClaw went from first commit in late November to Super Bowl commercial (it's meant to be the tech behind that AI.com vaporware thing) in February.

(Whether you think OpenClaw is good software is kind of beside the point.)

[qudat]

OpenClaw is not going to be a thing in 6 months. The core idea might exist but that codebase is built on a house of cards and is being replicated in 10% of the code.

I don’t think anyone is arguing against code agents being good at prototypes, which is a great feat, but most SWE work is built on maintaining code over time.

[AlexeyBelov]

Right, but what about real companies that solve real people's problems? I think LLMs make a difference for sure, but I haven't yet seen a company that blew past its competitors because of how great their AI usage was. A really great example would be an underdog smallish company that did so in a non-AI field.

[fmbb]

It’s very much not beside the point. Productivity is measured in how much value you get out from the hours your workers put in.