[devonkelley]

The add/remove churn is the thing nobody talks about enough. We track net lines changed vs gross lines changed as a ratio and it's genuinely horrifying sometimes. An agent will touch 400 lines to net 30 lines of actual progress. And the worst part is the removed code was often fine, the agent just decided to refactor something it didn't need to touch while it was in there. Shorter, tighter loops with clearer scope boundaries have helped us more than any orchestration improvement.

[torginus]

The most horrible thing I have seen with AI in coding is that it tends to add vestigial bits of code for no reason - this or that class that nobody uses at no point in the commit history, or stuff that gets added, then we decide to implement the feature in a different way, but parts of the old implementation stick around.