[psadauskas]

Voting doesn't work as well when there's billions of dollars being spent to influence the votes to make billionaires richer, while the working class that could vote against it is too busy working 3 part time jobs just to survive.

[mothballed]

This is why I'm in favor of sortition instead of voting.

The majority of random people don't have combination of desire, corruption, sophistication, and political experience to pull off this kind of bribery.

Virtually every elected politician does.

~Everything about the election process selects for the worst kinds of people.

[jacquesm]

There is a lot of truth in this but I'm not convinced sortition is going to work either.

But what you could do is vote with a string attached and a penalty for being recalled that is going to make people think twice about running for office if their aim is to pull some kind of stunt. The 'you give me four years unconditionally' thing doesn't seem to work at all.

[rudolftheone]

That's super-interesting experiment, but I wouldn't start it in such a large country as USA. Why won't humanity test it on a smaller scale?

In Belgium (Ostbelgien) the German-speaking community has a permanent sortition-based Citizens’ Council wired into the parliamentary process; In Ireland they've already run national, randomly selected Citizens’ Assemblies on high-stakes constitutional topics.

These are basically production prototypes - maybe we should ask ourselves why they don't push it further?

[psadauskas]

The amorality was not in plain sight, if your only source of news is Fox News or Breitbart or Twitter.