[szmarczak]

> I wasn't able to come up with people who claim that they were actually scammed, i.e. paid for a product that wasn't delivered or made an investment into something that doesn't exist.

I'm gonna ask the other way around. Name one successful product by the CEO that has reached mass production and you can get it right now.

[jusssi]

Well, AppGyver was real. SAP bought it, it's now called SAP Build.

Don't know how successful it was/is as a product though.

[szmarczak]

See my other comment [1]. There's dozen of failed products. That one AppGyver product is from 15 years ago. Since then, he hasn't created any other product. The motorcycle however is real. The battery may also be. The issue with Solid State Batteries is that it's almost impossible to scale them.

The guy changes the industry he's in as often to match what's currently popular.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47129369

[mrtksn]

That’s ridiculous, neither making your first product nor failing is scamming.

In this particular case you can buy motorbikes and sport cars made using electric motors from the same company that makes this battery. So at least 1 real product that I know of.

[szmarczak]

You cannot buy them. Have you visited their website? The way this works, you pay a non-refundable fee. And if this motorcycle turns out to be real, then you get to pay the rest amount (or cancel and lose some money). Because they manufactured a few units doesn't mean it's scalable (or profitable).