[dirasieb]

i've never found this type of "humans were left with no alternative" argument in defense of destruction of property convincing, some of the things that separates humans from other animals is the concept of private/public property, rule of law, etc, you know? there are alternatives, contrary to the alarmism found online the US is very far from actual dictatorships where people have close to 0 way of achieving change through the legal system, immediately jumping to violence without an imminent threat is something i'd expect from lower primates, not from homo sapiens.

[anigbrowl]

How are they 'immediately jumping to violence'? This surveillance debate has been going on for years.

[toomuchtodo]

You're free to your opinion. Property is just property, it is nothing special. Rule of law is highly dynamic and a shared delusion. Damaging or destruction of property is not violence, it is a property crime at best. In the scope of Flock, it is well documented as having been misused, illegally in many cases, by law enforcement and those with access to its systems [1] [2] [3].

> there are alternatives

This does not consistently appear to be the case in the US unfortunately.

[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/effs-investigations-ex...

[2] https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-roundup

[3] https://www.google.com/search?q=flock+misuse

[dirasieb]

> Damaging or destruction of property is not violence.

you wouldn't consider someone vandalizing your home or the infrastructure in your neighborhood to be violence? of course it is violence, an attack on the place i live (whether that's limited to just my home or to the larger community i live in) is an attack on me

is it not violence to, for example, burn down a business where people work in if you do it at a time where no one is around to get immediately hurt as a consequence? can i not call the financial damage caused both to the workers and the owners of that place violence?