[bondarchuk]

I never denied that. I only said "It's really idiotic to posit that only things that eat and drink can suffer.". Don't just pattern-match everything to some vaguely related black/white issues.

[rockostrich]

In the entire span of human history, the concept of suffering required sentience and the only things with sentience eat and drink.

[bondarchuk]

Do you really think that proves anything? It strikes me as a disingenuous argument.