top | item 47136756

(no title)

kibwen | 5 days ago

By this same metric, do you refuse to use C because the vast majority of OSS C codebases are permissively licensed? Surely you see that this makes no sense, yes? Neither Rust-the-language nor Rust-the-ecosystem are any more hostile to GPL than any other language and ecosystem.

discuss

order

lelanthran|5 days ago

> By this same metric, do you refuse to use C because the vast majority of OSS C codebases are permissively licensed?

It's not comparable - the Rewrite-it-in-Rust community is aiming to replace the existing pro-user products, with new pro-business products.

The last significant online C community was the one that gave us the pro-user products in the first place.

> Surely you see that this makes no sense, yes? Neither Rust-the-language nor Rust-the-ecosystem are any more hostile to GPL than any other language and ecosystem.

I don't care whether or not they are hostile, that is not relevant. What is relevant to the complaints you are reading is that their primary goal is the spread of Rust, not the interests of the users.

It is totally reasonable to be against a community who are working very hard to replace pro-user software with pro-business software.

kibwen|5 days ago

> The last significant online C community was the one that gave us the pro-user products in the first place.

You mean the OSI, headed by famous C hacker Eric S. Raymond, the permissive-license rebellion against the GPL? Pretending that the MIT/BSD licenses aren't a legacy of the C ecosystem is revisionist history.

> It's not comparable - the Rewrite-it-in-Rust community is aiming to replace the existing pro-user products, with new pro-business products.

It's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no "rewrite-it-in-Rust community", there are just people using Rust and writing what they want. That copyleft licenses have lost mindshare to permissive licenses in the decades since the rise of the OSI is a broader movement in OSS that long predates Rust, and has nothing to do with Rust itself.

bayindirh|5 days ago

> Neither Rust-the-language nor Rust-the-ecosystem are any more hostile to GPL than any other language and ecosystem.

Acta, non verba.

kibwen|5 days ago

Couching a non-sequitur in Latin does not an argument make. By all means, have the courage to make an actual statement.