[zer00eyz]

> "after its code was found tied to U.S. surveillance efforts" part is new ... Although most of us probably assumed it was true before too.

This makes me feel VERY old.

641A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Retroactive telecom immunity: https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/10/17

The government spying on what you do has been old news for 20 years. Snowden should not have been a shocking revelation to any one but it was, and that was 13 years ago.

Its less of a "assumed it was true" and more of a "oh look another one, not shocking".

[bigyabai]

> The government spying on what you do has been old news for 20 years.

The methodology has evolved dramatically in those 20 years, what we've seen from Snowden is almost certainly obsolete in the light of new surveillance tactics. Even as a pessimist myself, I'm still routinely shocked by the lengths that American tech has been bugged.

Salt Typhoon is really the icing on this cake; "lawful" intercept turned against the state that implemented it. There are more twists left in this story no matter how jaded you might feel.