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tr_alts | 7 days ago

The right wing went full censorship and surveillance after the Charlie Kirk assassination. It is probably not a coincidence that they targeted Discord first, because the suspect was in a Discord group.

They promised freedom of speech and liberty and this is what we get.

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exceptione|7 days ago

  > The right wing went full censorship and surveillance after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
No, earlier. US tech is mostly surveillance tech, with Thiel being sponsor and broker for authoritarian right. The doge operation started around day 1, and was a breach into the government to steal data that was yet out of reach for certain plotters.

platevoltage|6 days ago

I mean, they got louder about it after Charlie Kirk, but they've been full censorship forever.

hactually|7 days ago

nothing to do with left or right. the UK is left and has the most Orwellian surveillance state outside of China

platevoltage|6 days ago

The current Labour Party is NOT Left by any definition.

jcranmer|7 days ago

The right wing went full censorship and surveillance long before the Charlie Kirk assassination. Anyone who believed that the right wing (or the left wing, for that matter; let's not pretend that censorious dipshittery is not bipartisan) was honestly promising freedom of speech as opposed to merely freedom of speech they like and censorship of speech they don't like was at best willfully blinding themselves to the actual actions of politicians.

exceptione|7 days ago

  > long before the Charlie Kirk assassination. 
True. The free speech narratives are mere tools against opposition by promoting the most childish and stupidly rigid interpretations thereof, not something they really believe in. The whole conservative project is doomed from the start as it has to confront science and progress like the emancipation by women, lgbt people and certain ethnicities.

  > or the left wing, for that matter;
Both sides is uncalled for. Far left and the horse shoe, sure, but a) far left is very fringe, and b) lets not equate them with a well funded actual insurrection of oligarch and white nationalists with a paramilitary.