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fxtentacle | 5 days ago

I once lived in Singapore for a while and we were all sure that nobody would steal anything anyway, so we just never bothered to lock the doors. (That was also very helpful if you wanted to stop for a quick coffee with a date in the middle of the night.) You could see the MacBooks from the street, but nothing ever went missing. I don’t know what exactly it was, but Singapore felt incredibly safe and crime-free.

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jiggawatts|5 days ago

I used to accumulate a pile of change on my desk from buying coffees.

Never got touched across about a hundred different offices around Australia (I’m a consultant).

Except once: the pile was replaced by a $50 note and a hand written apology saying the guilty party needed change for the parking lot machine. I had less than $30 there in coins so… profit!

dormento|4 days ago

I had mine stolen from my desk, way back when i had a job at a state company. I used to keep it inside a small metal can (i guess i just enjoyed the rattling sound it made). Thing is, I also kept a desk drawer key inside the can, so the thief also got my key.

There was video.

I had to have the desk drawer changed (which made for quite a spectacle in an open plan office).

None were punished.

stevage|5 days ago

Wait, explain the quick coffee bit? You'd let yourself into a random person's house to make coffee?

landgenoot|5 days ago

I think it's the coffee machine at the office

ThrowawayTestr|5 days ago

>I don’t know what exactly it was, but Singapore felt incredibly safe and crime-free.

The extreme punishments for breaking the law might have something to do with it.

some_random|5 days ago

It's not actually the extreme punishments, it's the consistent small punishments. It's that you'll actually, seriously get a ticket for littering, even if it's a relatively small ticket. The "Fine City" enforces it's vision in a ubiquitous way, so people just don't break the rules.

StopDisinfo910|5 days ago

I don't think it explains everything.

I think social norms have a lot to do with it. It's like the actual social costs of being the one who broke the social trust is so high it dissuades people.

It worked for me on a lower level. Everyone cut queues and will grab an empty seat if it looks available at a packed restaurant here so I do it too but I never did that when I lived in Singapore because I knew that's not how things work there and people would genuinely be mad at me for doing it.

It's like a self-fulfilling, self-improving environment. Same with Japan and cleanliness.

State provided housing for most and a booming economy with low unemployment must help too.

wredcoll|5 days ago

> The extreme punishments for breaking the law might have something to do with it.

Historically speaking, this is almost never true. People constantly think the solution is crueler punishments and we have hundreds of years of records of what happens.

irjustin|5 days ago

That is just the part that gets the most press. Having lived here for a while now.

1. At a young age, you're taught to follow the rules.

2. "Someone's always watching". Lots of CCTV. Community reports.

3. Plenty of police who have the ability and time to investigate even the most petty things.

Trust in the system starts with 1 but is really carried day to day by 3.

zdc1|4 days ago

As someone who's lived there, it's definitely more about the consistency. Generally speaking, if you make a police report, it will be investigated. This includes for smaller issues like lost items too. From what I understand, their courts also give fairly consistent sentences.

Combine this with the fact that Singapore is small and full of security cameras, and it create a situation where breaking the law carries a decent risk of getting caught as police will have the willingness and resources to investigate.

On top of this, a massive proportion of the population are there on work visas. For these people, any sort of crime or bad behaviour would mean deportation and loss of their job.

As an aside, here's an interesting CNA documentary on their prisons: https://youtu.be/tJqRPycWUDg

initramfs2|4 days ago

I would say it's the carrot and stick play, they're really good at it. Outsiders/foreigners only hear the things about fines and caning and the death sentence and no chewing gum. But they don't see the carrot part. For example they give conscripts something like a 401k top up and some other benefits to attend their reservist trainings. Of course if you don't turn up it's probably jail or some shit. They also pay them to keep in shape through PT exams, and they also reimburse your salary for the time taken. Conversely if you don't turn up there's a fine or some tedious make up sessions.

dominicrose|4 days ago

Meanwhile in the UK $250k worth of Cadbury bars stolen from shops...