[rustystump]

This is reductive. All kinds of other countries do the same and the purpose is crystal clear. It isnt spying and killing without purpose.

I dont like it either and i didnt like back when it wasnt trendy to not like it. But it isnt pointless. They know what they are about.

[xg15]

The arab states offered a peace plan in 2002 that would include full recognition in exchange of an end of the occupation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

At some point it becomes obvious that Israel (under the current government and political climate) doesn't want peace.

[YZF]

In 2000 Israel offered the Palestinians what is essentially the two state solution everyone keeps talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

At some point it becomes obvious the Palestinians (under their current government and political climate) doesn't want peace.

Wikipedia is not a good source here. There was never a sincere offer accepted by all Palestinians that acknowledged Israel's right to exist. Specifically the sticky point here is the right of return which means that Israel ceases to exist. A peace proposal that includes the destruction of Israel is not one made on good faith. Either way it's not up to the Arab states to make peace here, it's up to the Palestinians.