[fullstackchris]

Lots of hate for NextJS in here so im wondering what people use as an alternative framework...

Gatsby? I used to use that one until the updates basically ceased to exist.

Vite with <insert your favorite here> - looks good, but at initial glance seems to favor just pure speed for any other feature support like MDX, advanced SEO, etc.

Roll your own with React and webpack? Good luck, and you'll probably end up with something that looks like the others I've mentioned above.

Just surprised many comments are just stating complaints about Next and not providing any counter examples, its very un-HN.

[Griffinsauce]

This stood out to me as well. The level of discourse is incredibly low compared to other topics. Huge amount of "next/vercel sucks" without any constructive or deeper argument made.

There is a similar vibe on the Next.js subreddit, just enormous amounts of shallow negativity. Very strange.

(I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to dislike the framework or company but the way it's expressed is consistently incredibly juvenile for some reason)

[slopinthebag]

Eh, it's been rehashed over and over again. People experienced with Next.js and other frameworks don't need to read the same constructive, deeper arguments being made ad infinitum. It's like when people say microslop or micro$oft, everyone knows what they're talking about.

[slopinthebag]

Astro, Nuxt, SvelteKit, SolidStart, React Router (prev. Remix), among others

Vite has plugins for MDX, SSR, etc. You can easily build your own framework if you want in a few hundred lines of glue code.

The criticisms of Next / React are so ubiquitous you can metaphorically gesture in their direction and most people know what's up. It's like wondering why someone said "ai slop" and didn't provide an expose on the quality of AI writing.