[xiphias2]

,,AI has limited real world experience or grasp of the consequences.''

People in the world have limited experience about war.

We're living in a world where doing terrible things with 1000 people with photo/video documentation can get more attention then a million people dying, and the response is still not do whatever it takes so that people don't die.

And now we are at a situation where nuclear escalation has already started (New START was not extended).

It would have been the biggest and most concerning news 80 years ago, but not anymore.

[embedding-shape]

> People in the world have limited experience about war.

Right, but realistically, how many people today would carelessly chose "Nuke em" today? I know history knowledge isn't at its all time high directly, and most of the population is, well, not great at reasoning, but I still think most people would try to do their best to avoid firing nukes.

[xiphias2]

The basic game theory of nukes is that either the world is escalating or deescalating, there's no other long term stable agreement.

Maybe people don't agree with ,,nuke them'', but OK with USA starting nuclear experiments again (which USA is preparing for right bow), which is a clear escalation.

Russia is waiting for USA to start the nuclear experiments to start them itself for defending itself to be able to do a counterstrike if needed.

After that there will be no stopping of Japan, South Korea and Iran rightfully wanting to have their own nukes.

You don't have to have the ,,nuke them'' thinking, even one step of escalation is enough to get to a disastrous position.

[Octoth0rpe]

> but I still think most people would try to do their best to avoid firing nukes.

"most people" are not in the positions that matter. A significant portion of the people who are in a position to advocate for such a decision believe that:

- killing people sends em to heaven/hell where they were going anyway; and that this is also true for any of your own citizens that get killed by a counterstrike.

- the end of the world will be the best day ever

[nancyminusone]

I think it's a higher number than you would expect. Which, in the context of nukes, is too high a number as long as it's greater than 1.

[iamnothere]

On social media, there are many, and this feeds back into training data. Unfortunately.

[ReptileMan]

Carelessly probably not much. Carefully - way more than you imagine.

[arcade79]

> And now we are at a situation where nuclear escalation has already started (New START was not extended).

This is a massive understatement. Russia has announced, and probably tested, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik . This is basically Project Pluto reloaded, but now as a Russian instead of a US missile.

I remember reading about Project Pluto some 25 years ago or so. It was terrifying to read about. And now Russia has realized it.

[georgemcbay]

> People in the world have limited experience about war.

Most (but not all) people have empathy, which allows them to understand the harm of their actions even without direct experience.

I don't think I will ever trust that any AI has empathy even if it gives off signals that it does.

I only trust that it exists in people because of my shared experience with their biology.