[xiphias2]

The basic game theory of nukes is that either the world is escalating or deescalating, there's no other long term stable agreement.

Maybe people don't agree with ,,nuke them'', but OK with USA starting nuclear experiments again (which USA is preparing for right bow), which is a clear escalation.

Russia is waiting for USA to start the nuclear experiments to start them itself for defending itself to be able to do a counterstrike if needed.

After that there will be no stopping of Japan, South Korea and Iran rightfully wanting to have their own nukes.

You don't have to have the ,,nuke them'' thinking, even one step of escalation is enough to get to a disastrous position.

[vanviegen]

> After that there will be no stopping of Japan, South Korea and Iran rightfully wanting to have their own nukes.

And I'm afraid they'll be far from the only ones...

[roger110]

I don't really buy the nuclear deterrence thing. Say a country just invested in conventional military and went to war with a nuclear one, maybe even full-on invasion trying to capture it. They really gonna get nuked?

Arab nations did try to capture Israel multiple times, but maybe you don't count this because the war never swayed much in their favor.