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dminik | 4 days ago

I know this is a foreign concept to some, but you can have a backbone.

Challenge it in court. Move the company to a different jurisdiction. Burn everything down and refuse to comply.

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ben_w|3 days ago

> I know this is a foreign concept to some, but you can have a backbone. Challenge it in court. Move the company to a different jurisdiction. Burn everything down and refuse to comply.

Challenge in court is fine, even healthy.

Threatening to burn everything down and refuse to comply might well work; simply daring Trump to a game of Russian Roulette about this popping the bubble that's only just managing to keep the US economy out of recession, on the basis that he TACOs a lot, I can see it working in a way it wouldn't if he were a sane leader making the same actual demands just for sane reasons.

Move the company to a different jurisdiction? That would have worked if AI was a few hundred people and a handful of servers, as per classic examples of:

  At the height of its power, Kodak employed more than 140,000 people and was worth $28 billion. They even invented the first digital camera. But today Kodak is bankrupt, and the new face of digital photography has become Instagram. When Instagram was sold to Facebook for a billion dollars in 2012, it employed only 13 people. Where did all those jobs disappear? And what happened to the wealth that all those middle class jobs created?
- Jaron Lanier, "Who Owns the Future?", https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/21526102-who-owns-the-...

But (I think) now that AI needs new data centres so fast and on such a scale that they're being held back by grid connection and similar planning permission limits, this isn't a viable response.

They can be burned down, but I think they can't realistically be moved at this point. That said, I guess it depends on how much Anthropic relies on their own data centres vs. using 3rd parties, given Amazon's announced AWS sovereign cloud in Europe?