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BloondAndDoom | 4 days ago

Exactly my experience, I know they vibe code features and that’s fine but it looks like they don’t do proper testing which is surprising to me because all you need bunch of cheap interns to some decent enough testing

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djtriptych|4 days ago

No there is a wide gap between good and bad testers. Great testers are worth their weight in gold and delight in ruining programmer's days all day long. IMO not a good place to skimp and a GREAT place to spend for talent.

throwup238|4 days ago

> Great testers are worth their weight in gold and delight in ruining programmer's days all day long.

Site note: all the great testers I've know when my employers had separate QA departments all ended up becoming programmers, either by studying on the side or through in-house mentorship. By all second hand accounts they've become great programmers too.

mkreis|2 days ago

So true. My first job was in QA. Involuntarily, because I applied for a dev role, but they only had an opening for QA. I took the job because of the shiny company name on my resume. Totally changed my perspective of quality and finding issues. Even though I liked the job, it has some negative vibes because you are always the guy bringing bad news / critizing others peoples work (more or less). Also some developers couldn't react professionally to me finding bugs in their code. One dev team lead called me "person non grata" when coming over to their desk. I took it with pride. Eventually I transitioned to develoment because I did not see any career path or me in QA (team lead positions were filled with people doing the job for 20+ years).

cube00|4 days ago

> they don’t do proper testing

They bring down production because the version string was changed incorrectly to add an extra date. That would have been picked up in even the most basic testing since the app couldn't even start.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46532075

The fix (not even a PR or commit message to explain) https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/commit/63eefe157ac...

No root cause analysis either https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16682#issue...

debarshri|4 days ago

Thats not true. Even for testing things, you need to do thoroughly now because standards are high.

jen20|4 days ago

From where I'm viewing, the standards in software have never been lower.

abustamam|3 days ago

I don't think you need any qualifications to run the app and realize that it doesn't run.

This is the bar we're at now.

otabdeveloper4|4 days ago

> all you need bunch of cheap interns to some decent enough testing

Sounds like a problem AI can easily solve!