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LightBug1 | 4 days ago
While I recall many at the time calling it a genocide due to the sanctions, the thrust of the military action was an illegal war.
Israel, by contrast, systematically murdered civilians, journalists, starved a civilian population with impunity and with government intent, and ... the list is tragically too long. Size and numbers have nothing to do with it.
Israels actions were ruled a genocide in the ICJ, the UN, among many other genocide experts (including Jewish experts).
The Israeli's had/have actual genocidal intent. Just read the reprehensible words of some of the current Israeli cabinet. Not some radical fringe, but the actual Israeli cabinet.
Sure, you mention you're not defending Israel, but the implication that there is some double standard here (perhaps "antisemitic" given your focus on labelling) is in itself a defense of Israel.
The current "administration" is a disgusting body, and the Zionist ideology, in its current form, is an absurd, preposterous ideology which gives birth to a population who dehumanise their "enemy" in exactly the same way as the Nazis dehumanised the Jews (not my words, but the words of Jewish scholars).
slg|4 days ago
>Israel, by contrast, systematically murdered civilians,
I'm not willing to ignore the US's propensity for bombing weddings.[1][2][3][4][5]
>journalists
Or the notorious Collateral Murder strikes.[6]
> starved a civilian population with impunity and with government intent
I already hit on this with the mentioning of Gaza's population density and the mechanics of war. Gaza is much smaller and denser which means that the same bomb dropped there will kill more people and destroy more infrastructure than in Iraq or Afghanistan. That has caused a larger percentage of the arable land in Gaza to be destroyed and they already had less of it to begin with. This had made them more reliant on Israel. The US simply didn't have the opportunity to control the food supply in the same way and I'm not willing to categorize a lack of opportunity as evidence of a lack of intent. And despite that all, the long tail of the US's actions still has led to a food crisis.[7]
>Just read the reprehensible words of some of the current Israeli cabinet. Not some radical fringe, but the actual Israeli cabinet.... The current "administration" is a disgusting body, and the Zionist ideology, in its current form, is an absurd, preposterous ideology which gives birth to a population who dehumanise their "enemy" in exactly the same way as the Nazis dehumanised the Jews
If we're talking "reprehensible words" and dehumanization, it hasn't even been two weeks since a US congressperson said that Muslims were below dogs. The US has the benefit of two extra decades of hindsight and many still haven't learned the lesson you're discussing.[8].
I genuinely think you should read through some of this[9]. It sounds like it might open your eyes to the US's actual record of behavior.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airs...
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haska_Meyna_wedding_party_airs...
[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa...
[4] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruzgan_wedding_bombing
[5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Radda_airstrike
[6] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri...
[7] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%932026_hunger_crisi...
[8] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fine#Muslims
[9] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#War_o...
LightBug1|3 days ago