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NooneAtAll3 | 4 days ago

step 1: remove wordpad

step 2: omg there's demand for features

step 3: turn notepad, whose point was to be a dumb simple thing, into a wordpad

step 4: get a raise because you "solved" the problem

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datenyan|4 days ago

Glad (/s) to see the MBA-ification of tech companies continues uninterrupted as we enter the second half of the decade.

cyanydeez|4 days ago

I assume there's like a single manager who's job it was was to maintain notepad and force use of AI, so obviously, vibe code needless features because if it's not broke, how can you fix it with AI.

roger110|3 days ago

I've never liked Windows but did appreciate the dumb simplicity of parts of it. Especially MS Paint. Like Mac Preview has always had all these nice advanced features, but lacked one simple thing most people need, a frikin pencil tool. Then they added a pencil but made it try to turn your scribbles into neat shapes every time... with fill.

brokencode|4 days ago

Yeah IDK. Wordpad is built around rich text, with all the weirdness and complexity that comes with it. I know for a fact that .rtf is absurdly complicated to work with, and I assume that .docx is similar.

I’m willing to bet that adding markdown to Notepad was a lot simpler than trying to make it work in Wordpad, especially since you’d probably still have to support rich text.

canucker2016|3 days ago

Both Wordpad and Win11-Notepad use the RichEdit control (which first appeared in Win95, brought to you by the Mail client group aka Capone - cuz no one else wanted to do a RichEdit text control). see https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/windows-11-not... and https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/rich-edit-control-...

The RichEdit control handles parsing RTF (I believe there was a CVE-level bug about RTF-handling in RichEdit - ahh - here we go https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/368132/), the programmer/app is insulated from grokking RTF.

Here's sample code for opening an RTF file - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/controls/use...

Adding realtime conversion of text-only Markdown to the processed-richtext Markdown is slightly more difficult than an instant message-type edit control converting a text :) to a unicode emoji character representing :)

You'd have some bookkeeping to remember which lines are markdown and which are plain text. But it's not rocket science.

Imagine Win11-Notepad as WordPad with all the UI for rich text formatting disabled.

alansaber|4 days ago

Hence why I use .txt and not .rtf (After having multiple RTF files become corrupted)

westurner|4 days ago

Syntax highlighting is definitely less complex than updating and rendering RTF and HTML.

There is configurable syntax highlighting in vscode.

Should an app like Notepad ever embed a WebView? (with e.g. tauri-apps/wry instead of CEF now FWIU)? Not even for a Markdown Preview feature IMHO.