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steve1977 | 4 days ago

The best example is probably the new "Outlook", and I put that name in quotes intentionally.

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password4321|4 days ago

In case anyone is not aware:

20231109 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453 Windows 11 Update 23H2 is stealing users' IMAP credentials (666 points, 278 comments)

> the new Outlook is a thin wrapper around the cloud version, so the IMAP sync happens in the cloud, not locally

ruszki|4 days ago

This was one of the most outrageous data grab in the past years. They replaced the completely working simple Mail app, which I used until that point, with this garbage, and I was just lucky that I paid attention, and I stopped for a sec what is that warning which tells you that they grab literally all of your emails.

Btw, just before that I found this page regarding Edge, and this is why I paid more attention to these things: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/microsoft-edge/priva...

That list is way too long for my taste, and it really indicated me that Windows became completely adversarial.

throwaway85825|4 days ago

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UqWBcuFx6NV4r|4 days ago

“Diverse”? Wanna expand on that one, buddy? You think you’re being subtle?