[doctorpangloss]

this is coming from someone who lives in san francisco like you and has a 2 kid, 4 adult family with no car. it's been like 80 years of USA = cars. people seem to really like SFH + cars, they vote for it, they pay for it, and seem to accept even longer commutes than ever. consider why. it's not so simple.

> Strong Towns thesis is correct... slow moving crisis... The idea that LA literally can't afford to bring it's sidewalks up to ADA code is insane

see, this tells me you're not getting it at all. it is an insult to process, yes. But there's no crisis. Strong Towns is kind of obviously wrong.

[imtringued]

The entire point by Strong Towns is that people don't pay for it.

[doctorpangloss]

i like their positions. but. i don't know what the point of strong towns is. people feel very strongly (haha) about it.

i can advocate for all sorts of stuff that is unpopular. it's meaningless. this is the hard thing about advocacy! strong towns spends a lot of words on stuff, but none of it on why someone who is happy with SFH cars lifestyle do, whatever it is they are asking that person to do.

> The entire point by Strong Towns is that people don't pay for it.

okay, people aren't paying for the ADA stuff. that's bad. but it's not a crisis. SFH cars people are living in that status quo every day. and it's not because they don't care and or because they are not disabled. i don't know how much the ramp codes really matter, i am not an expert, i understand that some experts in some narrow sense say they matter, but the real problem is a lack of leadership on holistic, bigger-picture issues like how to balance the costs and benefits of these sorts of requirements. we arrive at that cost-benefit organically right now, over and over again, in the absence of leadership, and most people seem pretty happy with it, which is a huge refutation of what strong towns is saying. do you get it?

strong towns says, "paying for this shit that doesn't matter does matter", which is wrong!