[gryzzly]

So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

[ifwinterco]

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry.

It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

[tonyedgecombe]

> It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

Which is pretty much what you should do if you are concerned about your health at all.

[bilekas]

PFOA was used previously, but now it's changed to PTFE, this is supposedly less harmful, but its considered perfectly fine (afaik) as long as the temperatures dont exceed 260°C.. Which at that stage you're probably using the wrong tool.. Maybe some Iron cast skillet or something ?

[array_key_first]

My understanding is that Teflon is perfectly safe. The concern comes from by-products of Teflon manufacturing which leech into water. The Teflon molocules are really long, they can't get stuck anywhere and your body just removes them through your urine.

[protonbob]

You don’t have to completely avoid it, reducing exposure is helpful. It’s not hard to get rid of it in your own home where you probably spend most of your time and eat most of your meals.

[Yizahi]

And it's amazing. I'd rather eat some inert and safe teflon flakes than carcinogens in the charred or burned food.

[dust42]

Whenever you see a Youtube video from a restaurant kitchen you can almost be sure to see some pans where the teflon has been scrubbed down to the pure metal. Probably not that healthy...

[SkyeCA]

Teflon is so useful when cooking that I'm going to use it until the moment it gets banned regardless of health impacts.

[cannonpr]

The problem is most data shows PTFE as having significant pyrolysis after 400-500c in reality it starts to break down enough to poison you around 260c. In general though under those temperatures it’s not particularly problematic, ofcourse ideally we should just never make the stuff to begin with as it’s manufacture and its eventual breakdown are both horrible for everyone.

[simonsarris]

I mean, did you know most dental floss has PFAS? You have to go out of your way to get PFAS free

Do you know what "countertop sealer" is made of? It's PFAS! Lots and lots of people rub PFAS on their food surfaces on purpose!

The stuff is everywhere even if you think you are avoiding it.

[ChoGGi]

I use a water flosser, and walrus oil for my cutting board.