[cmrdporcupine]

What's "entertaining" is more the speed at which it's happening.

It took Google probably 15 years to fully evil-ize. Anthropic ... two?

There is no "ethical capitalism" big tech company possible, esp once VC is involved, and especially with the current geopolitical circumstances.

[drzaiusx11]

The acceleration of Anthropic's evil timeline must be from all those AI productivity gains we hear so much about.

[sigmoid10]

Apparently they got coerced by the current US admin. The department of war in particular, who want to use their products for military applications. Not much room for "safety" there. Then again, the entire US is currently speedrunning an evil build.

[nozzlegear]

> department of war

Department of Defense is the official name, and they did have a choice: they could have stopped working with the military. But they chose money and evil.

[grim_io]

There is no department of war.

It's just a silly woke secretary choosing their own imaginary pronouns.

[coldtea]

Shame they had to "coerce" such angels, who'd never do evil for profit otherwise...

[menaerus]

I don't think it's fair to call out Anthropic to have become evil-ized while they were quite literally forced by the gov into that decision.

[johnbellone]

They did not get forced.

[cmrdporcupine]

Anthropic has been doing these things independent of what the US admin has publicly asked for, even before Hegseth started breathing down their neck. They were already taking DoD contracts and like, just like the rest of them. Hegseth, with the skill all schoolyard bullies have, simply smells their weakness and is going for the jugular now.

They also have never had any guarantees they wouldn't f*ck around with non-US citizens, for surveillance and "security", because like most US tech companies they consider us to be second/lower class human beings of no relevance, even when we pay them money.

At least Google, in its early days, attempted a modest and naive "internationalism" and tried to keep their hands clean (in the early days) of US foreign policy things... inheriting a kind of naive 1990s techno-libertarian ethos (which they threw away during the time I worked there, anyways). I mean, they only kinda did, but whatever.

Anthropic has been high on its own supply since its founding, just like OpenAI. And just as hypocritical.

[reasonableklout]

How did they evil-ize? The new Responsible Scaling Policy is still the most transparent out of all the labs. And there are the separate principles they’ve stipulated for the Pentagon, under which they’re facing threat of nationalization or being declared a supply chain risk

[oldcigarette]

Citation needed - see google and project maven. Of course that is all well in the past now - but for a brief moment google was capable of taking an ethical stance.