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tarasyarema | 5 days ago

Yes, I spent too much time meta programming while working on desplega.ai (my startup). And I believe currently the best approach is a mix.

Have the swarm work on stuff you could delegate to an intern and basically have the feedback loop with it in slack and github.

On the other hard locally focus on the hard things you want to control.

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itmitica|5 days ago

I too was convinced at one point the spec is the program.

That it doesn't matter the implementation stack.

But, after wasting too much time in the meta, with nothing really to show for, I returned to controlling the programming process in fine detail. Progressive agentic/vibe coding, if I was to give it a name.

But it could be that I'm slow to understand how it can be done in a better way.

edg5000|5 days ago

I think this progressive/gentic vide coding would work better if the tools were better and storing the history in a good immutable way, kind of like an email program. I have very valuable sessions where I give the agent a good ephemeral spec, something not sensible to persist in the codebase, but important enough to track it somewhere. Throwing away history is a big no no. Bad GUIs/TUIs discourage from relying on the history. When I close a session, I feel I'm throwing away the history. I keep many terminals open, but eventually have to close them. Tools will get way, way better to facilitate this "general on the frontlines commanding the agents" style of work.