[bilbo0s]

This.

You could also say that this is what the people have wanted for decades.

Remember the PATRIOT Act? Voted in by a vote of 99 to 1 in the senate. (And the 1 who voted against it? Yeah, we got rid of him for a more "law and order" type guy.)

What we're seeing is just the people getting more of what they're demanding. You get the government you deserve. And you deserve to get that government good and hard as often as possible.

[j45]

After the shock of 9/11 and I believe it was only meant to be temporary

[krapp]

Specific programs and laws be temporary - the PATRIOT act is mostly expired now - but the status quo established is meant to be permanent. It's called "shock doctrine" for a reason[0]. The current administration is trying the same thing by presenting "Chinese interference" and "illegal immigration" as being equally existential threats as 9/11.

And some of the uglier implementations may be repealed, ICE may be "reformed," there may be "hearings" and "committees" and that may give the illusion of "returning to normal" but we will never go back to the reality of power before Trump any more than we can go back to the reality of power before 9/11. Absent revolution and civil war, it's simply impossible.

[0]https://medium.com/@s-blog/a-history-of-disaster-capitalism-...