[ErroneousBosh]

> or being so dumbed down and rigid to be actually usable (GNOME, to a lesser extend CDE)

What do you find "dumbed down" and unusable about it?

Press ctrl-alt-T, and a terminal appears. Begin typing.

Press the flag key and a kind of menu thing you can type the name of apps into appears. Type "firefox" or "vscode" as appropriate, begin typing.

It could hardly be made any more straightforward.

[tapoxi]

they still, to this day, pretend the concept of a system tray doesn't exist. unfortunately applications expect one, so they put it behind a menu in a dropdown with a picture of a ghost so you know an app is hiding somewhere

it's insane

[ErroneousBosh]

Okay, what's a "system tray" and what would you use it for?

[mghackerlady]

Its not that (thats actually really good) its the application design being unsuitable for complex tasks

[ErroneousBosh]

Can you give an example of that? Which applications? Which tasks?